HELP! I need treatment advice! (tokay gecko mouth injury)

[YoursTruly]

I got my first tokay gecko morph last fri. and she came with red mites and a mouth injury. then on tue. I was holding her to try to get mites off and she bit the side of my finger but even though she did not break my skin, she pulled several teeth out! I need help identifying the problem, and any treatment advice would be greatly appreciated! thank you all in advance

 

[cricket4u]

I got my first tokay gecko morph last fri. and she came with red mites and a mouth injury. then on tue. I was holding her to try to get mites off and she bit the side of my finger but even though she did not break my skin, she pulled several teeth out! I need help identifying the problem, and any treatment advice would be greatly appreciated! thank you all in advance

Hello,

I wish I can give you a quick and easy solution, but the reality is there are several mites and some can cause serious health conditions. The fact that her teeth fell out that easy can be sign of infection or at least nutritional issues. I highly recommend a vet visit ASAP. Take a sample of her feces if possible to be tested. Here is a ton of information and keep this in mind. Any animals sensitive to chemicals such as geckoes, frogs, spiders and scorpions should be kept well away from the area being sprayed. Food insects such as crickets, ****roaches and mealworms should also be kept away.

Reptile Mites - Karingal Vet Hospital

 

[YoursTruly]

Thank You, I probably should have mentioned when her teeth were falling out I took her to a Vet ASAP... The Vet could not give me a strait answer, but said it could eather be an infection, or vitamin difficancy. He gave me a Antibiotic to inject every 3 days for two weeks, he did a fecal and found pinworms giving me some panicure for that. and it is not a bad infestation of mites and he agreed with the way I was going about treating them and gave me another alternative method if needed.

 

[cricket4u]

Thank You, I probably should have mentioned when her teeth were falling out I took her to a Vet ASAP... The Vet could not give me a strait answer, but said it could eather be an infection, or vitamin difficancy. He gave me a Antibiotic to inject every 3 days for two weeks, he did a fecal and found pinworms giving me some panicure for that. and it is not a bad infestation of mites and he agreed with the way I was going about treating them and gave me another alternative method if needed.

Thank you for being responsible and taking her right away. Just in case the vet did not mention, it's important to keep her well hydrated especially while on antibiotics. Hope she gets better soon.

 

[billewicz]

Hello,

Once she is well hydrated, a liquid calcium supplement for reptiles will help her a lot. Once she is a week past the last antibiotic injection, you can give her liquid vitamins for reptiles as well. Just not during or several days after the antibiotic protocol since the vitamins will block it from working.

I also wear the light weight synthetic 'technicians' gloves you can get at Home Depot or Lowes. If she bites and hols, you can usually slip the clove off without stressing her mouth and just set them both back into the enclosure until she lets go later.

Good luck with her. The good news is Tokay tend to heal up remarkably well.

 

[YoursTruly]

Thank You, I'll look into the liquid reptile calcium & vitamins.
Last night she did not eat any of the crickets I put in with her. how long should I wait until I attempt to force feed her or give her reptiboost?

 

[cricket4u]

Thank You, I'll look into the liquid reptile calcium & vitamins.
Last night she did not eat any of the crickets I put in with her. how long should I wait until I attempt to force feed her or give her reptiboost?

Start the reptaboost right away if you are injecting antibiotics. She is more than likely to be dehydrated and will not eat on her own.

 

[billewicz]

Stop!!!!:fight: If you administer a probiotic and vitamins which is what Reptiboost is, they both will cancel out the antibiotic medicine making the treatment worthless! You must run the antibiotic coarse completely and wait at least another five days before starting a probiotic and vitamin protocol. Ask your vet if you are still unclear about this.

Hydration can be as simple as drops of spring or mineral water in the mouth and getting her to swallow. Do not use unfiltered tap water, distilled water or water from a reverse osmosis filter system as they all have removed the minerals from the water causing leaching of these very important trace minerals from the animal.

Sometimes misting directly on the lips will induce her to lick the drops.

Or, if dehydration is critical .... it can be an injection of fluids.

I have dropped a gut loaded, cricket into the open mouth just after the water drops and gotten the Tokay to swallow both at the same time. Or, she may just clamp down on it, in which case I gently place her back into her enclosure and see if see eats it, or spits it out.:nana:

Good luck.

Michael's Tokay Hoard @ www.billewicz.com

 

[cricket4u]

Stop!!!!:fight: If you administer a probiotic and vitamins which is what Reptiboost is, they both will cancel out the antibiotic medicine making the treatment worthless! You must run the antibiotic coarse completely and wait at least another five days before starting a probiotic and vitamin protocol. Ask your vet if you are still unclear about this.

Hydration can be as simple as drops of spring or mineral water in the mouth and getting her to swallow. Do not use unfiltered tap water, distilled water or water from a reverse osmosis filter system as they all have removed the minerals from the water causing leaching of these very important trace minerals from the animal.

Sometimes misting directly on the lips will induce her to lick the drops.

Or, if dehydration is critical .... it can be an injection of fluids.

I have dropped a gut loaded, cricket into the open mouth just after the water drops and gotten the Tokay to swallow both at the same time. Or, she may just clamp down on it, in which case I gently place her back into her enclosure and see if see eats it, or spits it out.:nana:

Good luck.

Michael's Tokay Hoard @ www.billewicz.com

It's not a probiotic, it's nutrition in a powder form you mix with water.:lol:

Flukers Repta+Boost Insectivore/Carnivore Formula

 

[YoursTruly]

ok, thank you... I have not been giving her reptiboost yet, should I wait until the antibiotic treatment is finished or not? I did see her drinking from her water dish last night which was good so I'm not to worried although I still mist, I just know she did not eat any of the crickets I put in their last night.

 

[cricket4u]

ok, thank you... I have not been giving her reptiboost yet, should I wait until the antibiotic treatment is finished or not? I did see her drinking from her water dish last night which was good so I'm not to worried although I still mist, I just know she did not eat any of the crickets I put in their last night.

Billewicz thought it was a probiotic, but it's not. It's important you provide her with nutrients while ill and on antibiotics. Just try what he told you then instead.

 

[cricket4u]

He must have mistaken it with this product which is only sold in the UK.

VetArk REPTOBOOST 100g

 

[daggekko]

ok, thank you... I have not been giving her reptiboost yet, should I wait until the antibiotic treatment is finished or not? I did see her drinking from her water dish last night which was good so I'm not to worried although I still mist, I just know she did not eat any of the crickets I put in their last night

I would personally ask the person/vet who gave you the antibiotic treatment what you should do. Since they told you how to use the antibiotic, they should also be able to tell you if the repta+boost is safe and how to use it.

 

[cricket4u]

I got my first tokay gecko morph last fri. and she came with red mites and a mouth injury. then on tue. I was holding her to try to get mites off and she bit the side of my finger but even though she did not break my skin, she pulled several teeth out! I need help identifying the problem, and any treatment advice would be greatly appreciated! thank you all in advance

I was under the impression the vet referred you to reptaboost. Did he not?

 

[billewicz]

Oppps!! Sorry. I've had this conversation before with some folks in the UK and you are right, that is a different product.

The Fluker's product should be perfect.

Good luck and again, I'm sorry for the product confusion.

Michael

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

I agree with Adam. Medical advice is best given by medical professionals. If your animal has been seen by a vet and prescribed medicine by a vet, that vet is going to be the most capable person to give advice on continued treatment. I would call them and ask your questions. It never hurts to ask others opinions as well, but since your vet has actually seen your animal, they are obviously in the best position to give advice.

I'm also one to be very leery of petstore "medicines". There's no gov't agency that monitors any of that stuff and who knows what much of it is. I consider most of it to be snake oil (no pun intended). Just because it's in a pet store or says it's good for reptiles, doesn't mean it's actually true.

 

[cricket4u]

I'm also one to be very leery of petstore "medicines".

So am I and must agree. He mentioned the product and said he had seen the vet so I thought that was what the vet recommended.

 

[daggekko]

Ethan(or any other admins/mods), would it be ok for me to post the information sheet/directions for the repta boost product on here? I took a look at it at the store and felt like throwing the product in the trash.

 

[cricket4u]

Ethan(or any other admins/mods), would it be ok for me to post the information sheet/directions for the repta boost product on here? I took a look at it at the store and felt like throwing the product in the trash.

It is already posted in the leopard gecko's caresheet. Personally I will not use any of Fluker's products, but what can we say if it was recommended to the op by the vet. I believe yoshi's mom's vet also recommended or approved it for her gecko.

 

[Riverside Reptiles]

Ethan(or any other admins/mods), would it be ok for me to post the information sheet/directions for the repta boost product on here? I took a look at it at the store and felt like throwing the product in the trash.

You're welcome to post it Adam.